Comments on: The Dark Lord lives in my Snooze Button http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/ Polyphasic Sleep and Better Thinking Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:33:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Brad http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/comment-page-1/#comment-16734 Brad Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:49:43 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/#comment-16734 Lol, can't say I've ever heard the term "clambake" before. I've only ever known it as hot-boxing, and believe me, I did more than my fair share in college ;) Lol, can’t say I’ve ever heard the term “clambake” before. I’ve only ever known it as hot-boxing, and believe me, I did more than my fair share in college ;)

]]> By: puredoxyk http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/comment-page-1/#comment-14335 puredoxyk Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:50:37 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/#comment-14335 Something else I probably should have told you about, Myth, is the Stanford Sleepiness Scale. You can find it online; it's a good "on a scale of 1-10" way of describing tiredness. Luck and more luck to ya! Keep us posted! ;) Something else I probably should have told you about, Myth, is the Stanford Sleepiness Scale. You can find it online; it’s a good “on a scale of 1-10″ way of describing tiredness.

Luck and more luck to ya! Keep us posted! ;)

]]> By: Mythmon http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/comment-page-1/#comment-14171 Mythmon Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:50:44 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/#comment-14171 I looked at that section probably half a dozen times, and I didn't see it. I look again, and viola, its there. I also (tried to) put my email on the end of that post, but there must have been a problem there too. Anyways, thanks for the info, it will be helpful. We aren't really doing anything scientific, we are just the kind of people that like numbers to quantify things, or at least something more objective than "I'm asleep" and "I'm awake". Thanks again, its good to know this, since I'm starting the "experiment" tonight mythmon (a) gmail (o) com Hopefully the email shows up that time, if you want it. I don't know why, but some people might. I looked at that section probably half a dozen times, and I didn’t see it. I look again, and viola, its there. I also (tried to) put my email on the end of that post, but there must have been a problem there too.

Anyways, thanks for the info, it will be helpful. We aren’t really doing anything scientific, we are just the kind of people that like numbers to quantify things, or at least something more objective than “I’m asleep” and “I’m awake”.

Thanks again, its good to know this, since I’m starting the “experiment” tonight
mythmon (a) gmail (o) com

Hopefully the email shows up that time, if you want it. I don’t know why, but some people might.

]]> By: puredoxyk http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/comment-page-1/#comment-13948 puredoxyk Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:02:35 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/#comment-13948 It's so funny how many people can't find my email, when it's right on the front page, in the "about the author" blurb! Apparently it has mad obfuscation skillz. And so does your email, since your post ends with " you could contact me at". :P Any repeatable thing that you can do, that you know how well you ought to do, should function to test "awakeness". I did tests on myself using typing-tests, since I know exactly how well I type normally, as well as a simple reaction-time test (there are several online). I did several tests before starting this Everyman experiment, and then took them at various intervals throughout. They showed what you'd expect -- a sharp dip for a couple days, followed by a pretty quick recovery, and have been at normal levels since. I wasn't tracking the data for anything but personal use, though, and blogging; if you guys are more serious about data compilation, I'd come up with a few different tests and be more regular than I was about the intervals. Claudio Stampi used a certain battery of tests in his sleep experiments that might be useful to copy; or you could simply devise tests for (say) memory, reaction times, mental and physical agility, etc. Luck luck luck! -PD It’s so funny how many people can’t find my email, when it’s right on the front page, in the “about the author” blurb! Apparently it has mad obfuscation skillz. And so does your email, since your post ends with ” you could contact me at”. :P

Any repeatable thing that you can do, that you know how well you ought to do, should function to test “awakeness”. I did tests on myself using typing-tests, since I know exactly how well I type normally, as well as a simple reaction-time test (there are several online). I did several tests before starting this Everyman experiment, and then took them at various intervals throughout. They showed what you’d expect — a sharp dip for a couple days, followed by a pretty quick recovery, and have been at normal levels since. I wasn’t tracking the data for anything but personal use, though, and blogging; if you guys are more serious about data compilation, I’d come up with a few different tests and be more regular than I was about the intervals. Claudio Stampi used a certain battery of tests in his sleep experiments that might be useful to copy; or you could simply devise tests for (say) memory, reaction times, mental and physical agility, etc.

Luck luck luck!
-PD

]]> By: Mythmon http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/comment-page-1/#comment-13057 Mythmon Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:09:19 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/#comment-13057 Well, I can't seem to find an email for your, puredoxyk, so I will ask my question here. Do you know of any objective way to test "awakeness"? I and possible a few friends are going to attempt to do a polyphasic schedule this summer (modified everyman actually) and I/we would like a way to actually tell if we are actually better off/at least as good as before besides our own feelings. (Most of us are scientist-types, though still students [thats why its this summer as opposed to earlier]) I know your always looking for some actual scientific data, and this isn't going to be anything like a double blind test or whatever, but it will be slightly more than anecdotal. Anyways, your thoughts would be appreciated, you could contact me here or at Well, I can’t seem to find an email for your, puredoxyk, so I will ask my question here. Do you know of any objective way to test “awakeness”? I and possible a few friends are going to attempt to do a polyphasic schedule this summer (modified everyman actually) and I/we would like a way to actually tell if we are actually better off/at least as good as before besides our own feelings. (Most of us are scientist-types, though still students [thats why its this summer as opposed to earlier]) I know your always looking for some actual scientific data, and this isn’t going to be anything like a double blind test or whatever, but it will be slightly more than anecdotal.

Anyways, your thoughts would be appreciated, you could contact me here or at

]]> By: puredoxyk http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/comment-page-1/#comment-12581 puredoxyk Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:11:37 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/#comment-12581 (1) smoking pot in a car with the windows rolled up. ;) (2) totally, I'm all over that this weekend. (3) Getting regular before going polyphasic is a good idea, since you need to be used to "maintaining a schedule" like all get-out to have a prayer in hell. If your work schedule stays where it's at, I think you need an Everyman (core nap) schedule. You can't nap every four hours on that schedule, and that's the ony way that Uberman has ever worked to my knowledge. The core nap gives you the ability to stay awake a little longer between naps (usually 5-6 hours, maybe 7 once a day) and be able to move the naps by a little if needed. Most people with full-time jobs have to go with Everyman, including me. ;) (1) smoking pot in a car with the windows rolled up. ;)

(2) totally, I’m all over that this weekend.

(3) Getting regular before going polyphasic is a good idea, since you need to be used to “maintaining a schedule” like all get-out to have a prayer in hell. If your work schedule stays where it’s at, I think you need an Everyman (core nap) schedule. You can’t nap every four hours on that schedule, and that’s the ony way that Uberman has ever worked to my knowledge. The core nap gives you the ability to stay awake a little longer between naps (usually 5-6 hours, maybe 7 once a day) and be able to move the naps by a little if needed. Most people with full-time jobs have to go with Everyman, including me. ;)

]]> By: 'stine http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/comment-page-1/#comment-12140 'stine Thu, 31 May 2007 00:38:45 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2007/05/30/the-dark-lord-lives-in-my-snooze-button/#comment-12140 (1) Because I'm about to go back home and I'm too lazy to google, what's a clambake? (2) A few weeks ago I bought my bike at a garage sale, so I recommend hitting those :) (3) Last night I crashed at 8pm and got up at about 6am. One of my counsellors (which started this month) recommended last week that I get on a regular sleep schedule and eat 3 meals a day and all that jazz - I'm trying for getting a regular around 10pm to around 6:30am schedule before I attempt polyphasic again. Two earlier attempts lasted each about 2 days; during December '06. I hesitate to attempt it a third time just yet because I don't know how exhausted I'll be and if it'll make me mess up at work as a result of tiredness (I work 8:30-4:30, an hour for lunch unpaid). Do you recommend the schedule with the few core hours + naps or the equally-long equally-spaced naps? (I previously tried the 30 minutes every 6 hours). (1) Because I’m about to go back home and I’m too lazy to google, what’s a clambake?

(2) A few weeks ago I bought my bike at a garage sale, so I recommend hitting those :)

(3) Last night I crashed at 8pm and got up at about 6am. One of my counsellors (which started this month) recommended last week that I get on a regular sleep schedule and eat 3 meals a day and all that jazz – I’m trying for getting a regular around 10pm to around 6:30am schedule before I attempt polyphasic again. Two earlier attempts lasted each about 2 days; during December ‘06. I hesitate to attempt it a third time just yet because I don’t know how exhausted I’ll be and if it’ll make me mess up at work as a result of tiredness (I work 8:30-4:30, an hour for lunch unpaid). Do you recommend the schedule with the few core hours + naps or the equally-long equally-spaced naps? (I previously tried the 30 minutes every 6 hours).

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