Comments on: Is “Crazyphasic” the same as “Free-Running Sleep”? http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/ Polyphasic Sleep and Better Thinking Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:49:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: puredoxyk http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38309 puredoxyk Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:36:36 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38309 caff: Oh, I'm with you and then some. I actually shredded his paper a bit when I found about it -- link to my rather uncouth dissection is here: http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2006/11/01/an-attack-on-polyphasic-sleep/ (or on the front page, under Polyphasic Articles / Wozniak's Attack or something like that). As a semi-professional skeptic myself, I get irritated when people conflate science and skepticism -- they are not the same, darnit! Science aims to consider all DATA; skepticism to consider all DOUBTS. Dr. Wozniak did the latter and called it the former; a tolerable mistake in laypeople, but not so much in PhD.s! Note that I'm not sure science *would* come down on the side of polyphasic sleep, but I think most sciencey types would agree with me (even though I'm not one) that there simply isn't enough good evidence yet to make the call. That doesn't mean it's okay to simply ignore the evidence there IS and say it doesn't work because you doubt it would, though! Thanks! caff: Oh, I’m with you and then some. I actually shredded his paper a bit when I found about it — link to my rather uncouth dissection is here: http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2006/11/01/an-attack-on-polyphasic-sleep/ (or on the front page, under Polyphasic Articles / Wozniak’s Attack or something like that).

As a semi-professional skeptic myself, I get irritated when people conflate science and skepticism — they are not the same, darnit! Science aims to consider all DATA; skepticism to consider all DOUBTS. Dr. Wozniak did the latter and called it the former; a tolerable mistake in laypeople, but not so much in PhD.s!

Note that I’m not sure science *would* come down on the side of polyphasic sleep, but I think most sciencey types would agree with me (even though I’m not one) that there simply isn’t enough good evidence yet to make the call. That doesn’t mean it’s okay to simply ignore the evidence there IS and say it doesn’t work because you doubt it would, though!

Thanks!

]]> By: caff http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38308 caff Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:11:49 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38308 What do you think about Wozinak? I read his article concerning polyphasic sleep a while ago, and while I respect his right to disagree with it, I found it infuriating in that it seems he did little outside research to inform himself of the subject, and I was even more infuriated when he compared polyphasic sleep to magnetism and scientology. It's great to hear arguements against polyphasic sleep, but it seems he didn't do a lot of research, and spent the entire paper refuting claims that polyphasic sleep works without citing examples of successful polyphasers. What do you think about Wozinak? I read his article concerning polyphasic sleep a while ago, and while I respect his right to disagree with it, I found it infuriating in that it seems he did little outside research to inform himself of the subject, and I was even more infuriated when he compared polyphasic sleep to magnetism and scientology.

It’s great to hear arguements against polyphasic sleep, but it seems he didn’t do a lot of research, and spent the entire paper refuting claims that polyphasic sleep works without citing examples of successful polyphasers.

]]> By: jorel314 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38307 jorel314 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:26:29 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38307 No worries about making a post. I'm sure someone will know who the admin is over at the polyphasic google group. thanks for offering though.. No worries about making a post. I’m sure someone will know who the admin is over at the polyphasic google group. thanks for offering though..

]]> By: puredoxyk http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38305 puredoxyk Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:51:51 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38305 Aximilation - Weird feeling, innit? I've never gotten used to it, really. But you're absolutely right, of course -- any sleep schedule requires some discipline, and I think it's safe to say that most, if not all, polyphasic schedules require more discipline than your average schedule. Jorel - Nice job! They were awesome, and really helpful, I bet, to people who don't quite grok what this is yet. Sales have been steady on the book, but good, and I totally credit everybody who's spread the word as being the reason why, since I really don't do anything with it myself other than answer all the emails about it. ;) I'm afraid I don't know who's running the wiki, but if you'd like, I'll make a post and see if I can scare up someone who does--? Let me know. Thanks! PD Aximilation – Weird feeling, innit? I’ve never gotten used to it, really. But you’re absolutely right, of course — any sleep schedule requires some discipline, and I think it’s safe to say that most, if not all, polyphasic schedules require more discipline than your average schedule.

Jorel – Nice job! They were awesome, and really helpful, I bet, to people who don’t quite grok what this is yet. Sales have been steady on the book, but good, and I totally credit everybody who’s spread the word as being the reason why, since I really don’t do anything with it myself other than answer all the emails about it. ;)

I’m afraid I don’t know who’s running the wiki, but if you’d like, I’ll make a post and see if I can scare up someone who does–? Let me know.

Thanks!
PD

]]> By: jorel314 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38304 jorel314 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:43:44 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38304 Glad you enjoyed the pie charts in the polyphasic sleep wikipedia article. I created them a few days ago. I don't know who added those bloggers to the article though, but I was the one responsible for adding your name as the coiner of Uberman and Everyman. I also hooked you up with a link to your book in the external links section back on October 8. Wikipedia doesn't allow lulu.com links, so I had to find a workaround using dyndns.org. I'm curious if you saw an increase in sales of the book after its addition to the wikipedia article. On a side note, do you know who the admin is of the polyphasic sleep wiki? There seems to be a user named CpasdOmell reeking havoc with his/her spammage. I've had to undo the spam links about a dozen times already. http://polyphasicsleep.info/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history I'm hoping to get CpasdOmell's account blocked. Glad you enjoyed the pie charts in the polyphasic sleep wikipedia article. I created them a few days ago.

I don’t know who added those bloggers to the article though, but I was the one responsible for adding your name as the coiner of Uberman and Everyman.

I also hooked you up with a link to your book in the external links section back on October 8. Wikipedia doesn’t allow lulu.com links, so I had to find a workaround using dyndns.org. I’m curious if you saw an increase in sales of the book after its addition to the wikipedia article.

On a side note, do you know who the admin is of the polyphasic sleep wiki? There seems to be a user named CpasdOmell reeking havoc with his/her spammage. I’ve had to undo the spam links about a dozen times already.

http://polyphasicsleep.info/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history

I’m hoping to get CpasdOmell’s account blocked.

]]> By: Aximilation http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38303 Aximilation Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:32:31 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38303 Hey, nice to see a good post about this! I daresay I think I was the first one that said the term 'crazyphasic' ... ;-D mwahaha...we had a little discussion about it with that one guy in one of your other posts, can't remember when though. It's like being a partial contributor to a new branch of science or something, sweet! I've personally been on more of the crazy than the phasic sleep, ug, I'm working on it. I guess the moral of the story is that emphasis that crazyphasic sleep != free running sleep, and if you let yourself go too much, you'll get off over time. It's kinda like eating, you can binge once in a while as long as you're generally smart about it, but if you do it all the time, you end up el gordo. ~Aximilation Hey, nice to see a good post about this! I daresay I think I was the first one that said the term ‘crazyphasic’ … ;-D mwahaha…we had a little discussion about it with that one guy in one of your other posts, can’t remember when though. It’s like being a partial contributor to a new branch of science or something, sweet! I’ve personally been on more of the crazy than the phasic sleep, ug, I’m working on it. I guess the moral of the story is that emphasis that crazyphasic sleep != free running sleep, and if you let yourself go too much, you’ll get off over time. It’s kinda like eating, you can binge once in a while as long as you’re generally smart about it, but if you do it all the time, you end up el gordo.

~Aximilation

]]> By: puredoxyk http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38302 puredoxyk Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:54:38 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38302 I agree, except that "Normalphasic" makes a TERRIBLE name for a poly schedule. ;) Well, eek, I wasn't looking for Ultimate Authority status or anything -- actually all I noticed was being missing from the list of bloggers; other than that I was just looking at the neat charts and reading the history bits. That'll teach me to skim, I guess. Thanks! I agree, except that “Normalphasic” makes a TERRIBLE name for a poly schedule. ;)

Well, eek, I wasn’t looking for Ultimate Authority status or anything — actually all I noticed was being missing from the list of bloggers; other than that I was just looking at the neat charts and reading the history bits. That’ll teach me to skim, I guess.

Thanks!

]]> By: Nick http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/comment-page-1/#comment-38300 Nick Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:44:00 +0000 http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/2008/12/13/good-friday-a-big-polyphasic-post-is-crazyphasic-the-same-as-free-running-sleep/#comment-38300 You are mentioned in the article. For what it's worth, when I researched Polyphasic sleep, I got the impression that you are the world's number one authority on the subject. I'm not quite at the 2 month stage (so not technically adapted yet), but I have to tinker when I take my naps and core (I'm on 3+3) considerably. A core that's late by more than 90 minutes or a nap that's over 7 hours since the last one means a slight grogginess for a bit after waking up and mild tiredness before. But that's all. Seriously, this is such a fantastic way to revolutionise your life. Why TF doesn't everyone want to do it??? Normal people are crazy :) You are mentioned in the article. For what it’s worth, when I researched Polyphasic sleep, I got the impression that you are the world’s number one authority on the subject.

I’m not quite at the 2 month stage (so not technically adapted yet), but I have to tinker when I take my naps and core (I’m on 3+3) considerably. A core that’s late by more than 90 minutes or a nap that’s over 7 hours since the last one means a slight grogginess for a bit after waking up and mild tiredness before. But that’s all.

Seriously, this is such a fantastic way to revolutionise your life. Why TF doesn’t everyone want to do it??? Normal people are crazy :)

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