Comments on: Hey Steve: Can I be Disgusted without being Puritanical for a minute?

By: puredoxyk

puredoxyk — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:39:31 +0000

Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to pop back in and say I’m finding all the responses to this INCREDIBLY interesting. It seems like no matter what we think about the idea in general, we can all agree that we hear a big fat Ego Tuba playing in Steve’s posts about it, and that the selfish motives are pretty clear. This is an idea I’ll have to explore more!

Thanks!

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:21:14 +0000

Tia’s comment is interesting. I signed up to be a member on his forum for the express purpose of posting my dissent but didn’t go through with it because I just didn’t have the energy. Maybe I will now as a test…

By: Brice Stacey

Brice Stacey — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:55:31 +0000

Steve has gone off the deep end. It’s amazing that he would go through such a long post, but fail to realize how narrow-sighted he has become. The kicker was when his wife bemoaned Steve’s lack of intimacy with other women, and gave the green light for adultery. I’m just appalled that he couldn’t, you know, perhaps attempt intimacy by other means than sex.

By: Tia

Tia — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:26:53 +0000

Steve makes sure that posters he doesn’t like are unable to log on to make comments, but aren’t listed as officially “banned,” which could be criticized.

I wonder if he also creates false “support.”

By: Tia

Tia — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:24:06 +0000

The reason everyone *seems* to be jumping on Steve’s bandwagon is that it is a controlled environment and people are banned without it being visible to other posters.

Dissent is just snuffed out, and so the Steve cult is flourishing.

Since dissent is surreptitiously *disappeared,* I’m tempted to wonder if fake agreement also is generated through the wonders of technology.

Don’t much trust that Steve.

By: Paul

Paul — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:43:56 +0000

PD,
Hiya. I’m new to your blog and first came across it in my attempt to find somebody out there who wasn’t jumping on Stevie’s bandwagon in response to his announcement that he was going Poly.

Definitely there’s a growing cultish nature to his tone and an uninviting aspects to virtually all of his 2008 posts.

I went off on him on a post here at my blog, which you may find interesting: http://monkeyinmymind.com/2009/01/04/internet-self-help-guru-steve-pavlina-decides-to-have-sex-with-women-who-are-not-his-wife/

Outside of Pavlina, I like your blog and have added it to my blogroll. See you around.

Paul

By: Steven Freedman

Steven Freedman — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:21:16 +0000

Predoxyk — I am impressed. I carefully read all of the comments on Mr. Pavlina’s site to his two blog entries on the subject, and I was amazed with the near-unanimous encouragement he received from his readership. I wanted to add a comment saying “Is nobody else uncomfortable with this?” but it takes a day to register so my comment has not yet appeared. A few of his readers did point out the risk to which he is exposing his kids, and cautioned that they were aware of poly-relationships that ended in disaster. But most at a minimum urged hit to go for it, and the best of luck.

Steve has already responded to many of the points that you raised, and he edited out some of the most objectionable parts of the original post. In addition, his wife has enthusiastically accepted his position and wants to experiment also!

This is a warning, in my opinion. Mr. Pavlina has an insatiable desire, as you point out, and he wants to pursue it in a way that feels consistent with his principles, which I assume are sincere (truth, consistency and so on). Like many before him, he has created a noble justification for his indulgence: this is personal growth, coupled with courage, sensitivity, honesty… Hugh Hefner’s sexual escapades, which included homosexuality, were not indulgence but, according to Mr. Hefner “pushing the boundaries of sexual experience”. He shoulda got an award or something.

Congrats to being one of the first to call him on this. I am sure that many people will read StevePavlina.com and go off and do regrettable things — as you suggest.

By: Tues

Tues — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:24:51 +0000

Next you know, he’s going to start a cult. I think the juice feast experiment messed up his brain too much. His children are going to go through a lot of expensive therapy if he goes through with this.

By: Netopalis

Netopalis — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:28:34 +0000

PD,
I’ve read your blog for some time, although I tend to lurk, and I have to say that our initial reactions were very similar. Don’t feel ashamed about what you wrote at all. As I was reading Steve’s post, what kept coming back to me was how selfish it sounded. He was doing it because *he* wanted more excitement and *he* felt he was being unfulfilled….Never mind the wishes of his kids and wife, of course. I must say that I’ve lost a lot of respect for Steve…And as a fellow polyphasic sleeper who’s been sending a lot of interested parties to his blog, that’s saying something. Anyway, thanks for voicing this on here – I’m glad someone did.

-Netopalis

By: Interesting

Interesting — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:15:38 +0000

Hey good post. I’m actually a follower of Steve, but this topic really got to me. I actually wanted to read what others “really” thought, who were not so close to Steve and the forums. Everyone is too nicey nice to give an honest opinion or they have the same line of thinking as Steve’s on his forum.

It’s good to come across a new blog with a new perspective on the matter.

I think he is not aligned with love, truth etc as much as he claims, but manipulates these words to fit into his own little world for his own benefit.

Will keep an eye out for more comments on this blog.

Thanks